Tuesday, May 12, 2009

The son of man and John 6:62



Here are a couple of passages that trinitarain's notoriously get wrong every time in not paying attention to detail to try and prove their doctrine of "god the son" they simply look for their doctrine of pre-existence and ignore the rest. Let's look at the following two passages

John 3:13 No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.(esv)

There is a common passage that will tie both John 3:13 and 6:62 together, I will get to that later on. But what is usually ignored by the trinitarain is the term *son of man* in reference to Jesus what is the*son of man*? Well, to put it short and sweet where everyone can understand, it is that which everyone is born of, that being mankind. Jesus was simply saying God provided his humanity or that which was born of a woman as the sinless sacrifice, the tying together will be brought out in the next couple of passages, in the context of John 6....


John 6:62 Then what if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before? (esv)

to find out what was meant by John we should back up earlier in the context of John 6:51 where Jesus explains exactly what is meant.Jesus was answering the Jews who were murmuring among themselves saying How could you come from heaven(John 6:42 KJB) and likely so but Jesus explain in (verse 51)

I am the living bread which came down from heaven,if any shall eat of this bread he shall live forever: and *the bread I will give(Which came from heaven) IS MY FLESH* Flesh and blood neither comes from or goes to heaven in the current state of being able to die(1st. Cor. 15:50 KJB) Jesus was simply saying God provided his flesh from heaven as a sacrifice for the sins of the world. not that he literally came from heaven as that would contradict scripture the passage takes care of any and all so called pre-existence passages trinity folk might use.

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