In asking the question on debate forums such as Carm and other forums, I did have a lot of smoke screen answers in my opinion, trying to cover up the question by making it about the definition of blasphemy, so as to hide the weakness of the doctrine and the forcefulness of the question... If you can blaspheme one of their persons but not the other, then you must have three totally different gods.
Why would I say god/God instead of person you ask? Because blasphemy is a matter of blaspheming God. If God is three persons, then you should by Blasphemy of one, blaspheme all of God. But both the father, and the son, are excluded from the unpardonable sin...Either this a problem for them,(Trinitarains) or a problem for us.(Oneness) Which is it?
As I said before, scriptures teach: God can be blasphemed, but for some reason Matth.12:31-32 says the son of God cannot! You know why? Let's read the passage in question?
31.Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32.And whosoever speaketh a word against the son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world or in the world to come.
33.Either make the tree good, and his fruit good: or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.(KJV Matth.:12:31-33)
Jesus himself raises a lot of questions with these passages...
Trinity doctrine adherents, of all flavors, should be able to answer why and how to this passage?
Because the son of God, is not "God the son"!
The Holy Ghost(God) is that which incarnated Jesus!(The son, or flesh of God) The distinction is being made between his sonship, and his divinity(Which was not God the son) this brings a very glaring contradiction and problem for the Trinitarain... I believe you can blaspheme Jesus and not be forgiven. As Jesus is God manifest in the flesh. But Jesus was showing us a clear distinction of the son born of Mary, and his deity, that was both in him, and in heaven at the same time. This is his humanity, and divinity, which distinction trinity doctrine does not in Jesus make...
The same is seen in Mark 13:32 where the son did not know the time of his own second coming but the father ONLY. The distinction is in the incarnation. The seen (Jesus flesh, as son born of Mary, the son as the image.( Col.1:15) And the invisible spirit of God.( not seen) in him, and in heaven at the same time. That is what is not understood and the reason for the confusion.
The work of the Holy Spirit as spirit is a different work than that of the flesh and person of the son of God." That is very reason of the incarnation, as both of those workings are found in the one united Spirit and flesh of the son. This is Oneness doctrine spot on! We cannot have multiple persons of God, as we come to multiple gods, just like the Hindus.... The different work is a matter of spirit and sinless flesh. We needed both for our redemption. Spirit because of God's grace, and sinless flesh, as we needed a kinsmen redeemer. It was not a matter of different persons of God working, it was the selfsame God, all in him(Jesus) we needed no other!
Blasphemy.
It is not a matter of any man, or woman. As one person of the Calvinist persuasion has claimed: that Just any sinner is a blasphemer... This causes many problems as already sinners are in this state of no forgiveness, but are able to believe and repent and come to God... The Calvinist double condemns the sinner in saying they can blaspheme the Holy Ghost and not be forgiven? Please? This offends all common sense thinkers! First they are saying they may not be part of the elect and they surely are not by blaspheming the Holy Ghost, insuring it is so? This is one of the Most ignorant arguments ever devised by man to hide the weakness of the two doctrines of the trinity and of the five points of Calvinism on this all five points fall!
Here is the problem. First of all this calling God's word a Liar and contradictory.(Is this blasphemy itself?) Then it places doubt on the word of God by said doctrine. Paul in 1Tim 1:12-13 said that He was before a blasphemer (Attributing The work of God to the devil) but that he had done this out of ignorance in unbelief and obtained Mercy.
Blasphemy will not be forgiven, not in this world, or in that to come, period! In other words it is impossible. The so called answer, or solution actually makes it possible to be forgiven of blasphemy if only the person somehow sees the error of their ways. We know that is not true, because the doctrine of Calvinism's Unconditional election and damnation does not allow for that. (Not scripture) We are elected in and through him.
The scriptures teach that is not possible to be forgiven of the blasphemy of the Holy Ghost, as God will not forgive this willing trampling of the Blood of Christ. Hopefully those honest enough will see the problem with this.
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