From Carm.Org link to forums.carm.org a trinitarain poster wrote and ignores the following answer in reference to the Oneness claim that the genuine man Jesus was praying to the one God that both Incarnated him, and who was still literally on the throne in heaven :
The poster then says:"You have God praying to himself or a sham. Please explain."
The writer then dishonestly writes the following in reply to his own from Oneness adherent and How that Jesus was both God and man at the same time and that a distinction must be made in Jesus as both David's son(Man) and David's LORD(God) concerning the incarnation.
He then adamantly rejects the answer and says:"This is not about Jesus, per se, but God in totality."
I would first pose how that this person thoughtlessly shoots himself in the foot with the question, and has God praying to himself. I would then remind him that even the Chalcedon confession which I personally put zero stock in and reject the majority of as un-scriptural; says the following:
"for us and for our salvation, born of the Virgin Mary, the Mother of God, according to the Manhood; one and the same Christ, Son, Lord, only begotten, to be acknowledged in two natures, inconfusedly, unchangeably, indivisibly, inseparably; the distinction of natures being by no means taken away by the union, but rather the property of each nature being preserved, and concurring in one Person."In Layman's terms the trinitarain confession says: there is a distinction in his human nature and his divine nature(Which Oneness adherents maintain) although Oneness states with scripture his divinity is the Father that incarnates the son and makes the son God. As Malachi 2:10 states: the totality of God is called the Father and not a person of "the trinity." ( Isa.9:6, Malachi 2:10,Math.28:18, Acts 2:36,John 14:10)
Most of the questions posed and presented by trinitarains affect their own doctrines as much or more than it does the Oneness. For example, take their argument and accusation of "patripassianism" or the accusation that we must hold the doctrine that "The father died" which is just as thoughtless as the former argument directed toward Oneness. Any God dying or praying is just as bad as the other whether it is the son dying as god or the father dying as God and Oneness do not teach that God as father or son died but the body and genuine humanity that God incarnated died. The very problem is highlighted in the Chalcedon creed that says:" Mary was the Mother of God" In one instance the creed says divinity and humanity is "inconfusedly" and in another confuses and makes no distinction with the mother of God quote.
What is the lesson here then? Well both trinitarains and Oneness in arguing their points better make sure to choose their answers carefully. And No, God does not pray; nor does he have need to pray because he has nothing higher in the way of having a God which then screams of polytheism! God no more prays any more than Mary was the mother of God! Both questions are distinction errors. Yes Jesus is God, and yes Jesus is man at the same time, Both David's son, and David's God or LORD. The scripture makes the distinction the poster from CARM dishonestly denied that which the bible makes claim. Think about it....
